Steffen Peters Ravel – Grand Prix Kür Aachen 2009
By admin on Mar 1, 2010 in Grand prix video
CDIO tour Aachen 2009 Winner test of Steffen Peters
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By admin on Mar 1, 2010 in Grand prix video
CDIO tour Aachen 2009 Winner test of Steffen Peters
I have audited a clinic with Steffen Peters and he is incredible, he is so kind to the horses and does not tolerate people using the spurs or curb rein too much. Everything with him was about suppleness and the horse going well, and not allowing people to just hold their horses and kick like this “false piaffe” people are mentioning. He believes in clear, correct training and fit and happy horses. Not only is he an amazing rider, he is also an outstanding clinician.
DraftDressage | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
The piaffe is real close to false – how you tell is IF the croup rounds and comes under the wither point, the hind legs well underneath him. Sometimes it does -sometimes it doesn’t. The horse does look real tired. His hands do move alot, the horse is bracey as its tail does ALOT of moving almost all the time. Classical dessage does not need to be redefined it stands alone as a perfect way of training free moving, non-resisting, beautiful horses that will STAY sound.
KCashatt | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
@Abwarmblood i agree he does look rather tired
1horse1crazy1 | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
great horse.
great rider.
great music.
karolakita1 | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
who comments ??? he is so funny!!!
xuxuschatzi | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
@SilivasGold
YES!!! THANK YOU!!! I’m glad someone FINALLY noticed how lenient and careless the judges were! That horse SHOULD NOT have scored so high with his uneven movement and unsteady changes and, well, many other things…
RRhapsodylover | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
do you know how anky trains her horses?
avrillavigne1981 | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
salinero is a gazillion times better than ravel
mallithegr8 | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
I would rather see his hands moving than perfectly still. If they are perfectly still, they are obviously not giving and are hard.
cfaulconerdressage | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
I think Ravel looks tired. But he is magnificent, very well trained and ridden. I wouldn’t call it a false Piaffe, I’d call it an exhausted one. Easy for us to judge, huh.
Abwarmblood | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
I must agree, I am not a fan of this type of modern riding and despite them claiming to be the basis of classical, I do not see it and I really think its changed. If you watch the Piaffe, it is not a true piaffe, as Philippe Karl would say, a false piaffe, this means the back feet don’t actually come up as they should. His transition work looks almost a bit, rusty and tense, the transitions aren’t great. Also I don’t like the fact that his hands seem to move around quite a bit,which I dislike!
lassiesuca | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
His poll is the highest point. The 4th vertebrae is actually very low in the neck compared to popular belief and thus in that particular position the poll is actually the highest point. As for his changes, they are a lot better than Totilas, he is extremely unbalanced in them. Steffen Peters has also been coached by Jessica Ransehousen, an American rider and trainer, since he came to the US. He is not exactly what I would call a European trained rider.
ewolfbalto | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
However, if you look at Anky, Edward or even Isabell Werth, you will notice the curb is consistently at an angle greater than 45 degrees to the horses mouth. The curb puts pressure on the poll which causes the horse to flex vertically. This consistent over cranking of the curb causes the horse to over collect in the neck. A limited amount of curb, as SP does, is a highly classical practice, and shows that the rider is using the seat more for collection instead of the curb.
ewolfbalto | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
@aauvolleyball21 Actually Edward Gal did not train Ravel to I-1. He only got to ride Ravel when the horse was much older, he had several other riders train and break him. Also, just want to point something out that makes Steffen Peters a much better rider, note the curb bit. You will notice the curb is on a 45 degree or less angle with Ravel’s jawline, thus he is not using the curb as much.
ewolfbalto | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
where will they compete against eachother? What competition? I’d really like to see that too
ToPeVeNtErr | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
Can’t wait to see Ravel and Totillas compete against each other – it will be an awesome competition.
aauvolleyball21 | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
And FYI if you watch this video carefully, you will see that Ravels 4th vertebra is usually the highest point, not the poll, his changes are uneven – much more expressive one way than the other, the pirouettes are large and hopping behind and the horse is wringing his tail hard thru’ the entire test . Still an awesome job, but come on – this is a European trained horse ridden by a European trained rider who now lives in California.
aauvolleyball21 | Mar 1, 2010 | Reply
I would say these 2 horses are a testament to the way EG trains horses. I get so tired of reading post after post criticizing some of the most brilliant riders in the world today by people who spend more time on the internet than in a saddle
aauvolleyball21 | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply
bettylion and silivasgold
Ravel was trained and competed through Intermediare, Lingh was trained and competed through GP by Edward Gal. Both of these horses were purchased by students of Stefan Peters, presumably with his input since he was always going to compete Ravel. Obviously SP has less of a problem (asan international rider and trainer) with the way these horses have been trained than the people posting on this site – are you ALL competing internationally and hiding behind aliases??
aauvolleyball21 | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply
I love Steffen Peters but I was underwhelmed by the musical arrangement. I know the music is supposed to be instrumental only but it was pretty lackluster elevator style. And too many transitions from different types of music.
Somebody get this guy a new music producer!!
bettylion | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply
@SilivasGold
yeah!!!!
bettylion | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply
HORSE OF THE YEAR ! Congrats! What a horse….
PrincessStardusting | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply
amazing!! somebody buy me this horse!! =P
dmmcmjmkem | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply
@rae3m2011 i thought the whole freestyle was coldplay?? well thats what he told us when he was over here for the forum?
dmmcmjmkem | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply
No, Ravel will win over Totilas EASILY, if the judges actually pay attention to the rules and standards of FEI dressage, and stop awarding obscenely high scores to rollkur-trained horses whose poll is not the highest point, and whose hind legs aren’t remotely parallel with their front…….
SilivasGold | Mar 2, 2010 | Reply